Panasonic G1 - Nikon D700 ISO Shootout

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Patrick Henry · 849 weeks ago

Interesting to see that the G1 appears to process reds better.

4/3 sensors from Olympus and Panasonic do seem to have color spot-on.
Again, and often, I don't see the point of all this testing. Why not just go out and take pictures? One of my sons is a full time magazine photographer and he makes a good living with his D100 and a kit lens, occasionally using a 180mm f/2.8 AF for portraits. Also, shouldnt the test shots be of subjects you would be likely to take real photos of so that you can adequately judge what you might use the lens for?
2 replies · active 849 weeks ago
"Again, and often, I don't see the point of all this testing."

There are a two reasons for this testing: 1) The gear does matter, to some people more than others. Some prospective buyers want to know what kind of performance to expect from a camera before they buy it. If all you care about is whether a camera is capable of making great photographs in the right hands, then by all means skip these tests. Any camera made today can do that. 2) I am interested in the gear itself, to the point where I enjoy testing it from a technical standpoint.

"Why not just go out and take pictures?"

I do that too! An interest in gear and an interest in making and enjoying photographs are not mutually exclusive.

"Also, shouldnt the test shots be of subjects you would be likely to take real photos of so that you can adequately judge what you might use the lens for?"

When possible, I do test this way. For example, my resolution tests are done with a landscape subject. However, certain tests are prone to different types of error. A typical indoor, low light high ISO subject would be a person. I don't have models who will pose still for me, nor do I have a full studio in which to shoot controlled comparisons.

Still, your points are well taken. This is meant to be a site focused on all aspects of photography with compacts. Recent content has been skewed towards the gear/tech side, and it is good to hear your perspective.
Hmm
Life was Sooooo much easier with film....find a dood one and stick with it!! Simple :)
I can see a small backfocus on the D700 pics.
1 reply · active 807 weeks ago
Could be. I did focus bracket, but I think I see a touch of backfocus here as well. Not enough to substantially affect the results IMO.
Thanks for the tests. We’re now wondering about the GH1 and, unfortunately, the G1 may be a good predictor of what this camera will look like. You might consider ignoring those who ask, “Why do tests.” Most everyone wants to know what a camera looks like in low light. The more people posting comparisons of cameras shot at higher ISO the better. We don't need to see subjects to see relative ISO performance.
If you have read the DPreview.com site, you can also see that the G1 beats the D700 in Dynamic range reproduction.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD700/page20....

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicdmcg1/pa...

This is significant, as for photographers who value Dynamic range over High ISO, the camera of choice should be clear.
2 replies · active 778 weeks ago
I don't think much of DPR's dynamic range testing. Also, the results you are pointing out relate to JPEG performance, whereas I shoot RAW.

I have tested the D700 against the G1 in dynamic range, and looking at the RAW files, the D700 clearly has more dynamic range. DxOmark shows this, although I did not find quite as great of a difference as their results suggest: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/Image-Qualit...
I have a D700 and an micro 4/3 (E-P2), and I have a very hard time believing that. The D700 at lower ISOs has enormous dynamic range in the raw files. It keeps pulling out detail from the shadows, but what surprises me regularly is how forgiving it can be at the highlight end. Blown areas just cleanly come back in PP.

I love both cameras, and the m43 gets carried around more and makes excellent pictures, but the Nikon FX sensor on the D3/D700 is hard to fault relative to almost anything digital - I say this because I realize that an E-P2 is not a G1, but it's not going to be close.
General reminder: Posts containing name calling, personal insults, and other rude comments will be deleted. Especially if you call me a plonker.
Amin, What I find interesting is that no one has even bothered thanking you for doing these tests (including those who find them useful). I have been visiting this blog for over two years and find it quite useful, and when there are times of prolonged silence (no posts) people are quick to complain about it. Talk about taking things for granted. And now you have to deal with insults? I am sorry about this. Thank you for all the tests and all your time...
1 reply · active 807 weeks ago
Hi, thanks Rondo. I think it's the nature of the internet. People tend to be critical and also take it personally when they perceive that a test makes their particular camera look worse. For example, one might conclude that this test makes the G1 look bad, whereas I don't see it that way.

The periods with less frequent posts cannot be helped. I know you understand this and that some others don't. Reality is that I have a busy job, wife and kids, and maintain this site as a hobby. When my job gets busy, and I have to pick between posting here and spending family time, there aren't going to be a lot of posts! Fortunately others are also contributing interesting articles/posts to the site.

I feel that I get a lot of nice comments here. The rude ones are relatively infrequent. Also, folks buy things occasionally through the affiliate links, which helps pay for some of the gear being tested. I actually enjoy doing and discussing these sorts of tests, but the comments are an important part of what makes it fun for me. Thanks for reading!

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